is an example of farkel's work online?
if so, would someone please provide the link?
i've been told that it takes him up to a week to compose one of his pieces of work.
Look Ginny! Teejay is still pretending you're a man! He called you 'dude'!
Let's see...he can't tell when a woman is making a joke...
he hasn't read the basic ex-JW websites widely enough to know what name Farkel writes under...and he apparently didn't read any of Farkel's essays when Big Jim posted them on this board even though there was a flap about plagiarism for several days...
yep, still predictable, good old Teejay...he's not a bit lazyminded...or envious...
for those who chowed down for years on the watchtower's "spiritual food" (who was that talking about schit on a schingle in an earlier post?
) and thought you were getting christianity, and have now left the table of jehovah-of-the-watchtower... .
and purged what you consumed.... and still haven't given up on christianity - (hey, jesus did warn of counterfeits).
Guess I'm alone in hating the Narnia books. I thought they were sexist, smug, suffocatingly preachy. I never could figure out what all the fuss was about; they struck me as inferior children's books in the Victorian moralistic style. They bored the sox off my kids too. I tried reading one of the science fiction (Perelandra was it?) and it was just boring as hell.
My kids tried watching the PBS version of 'Lion WItch Wardrobe' and it totally failed to hold their attention any more than the book did. They seemed to want to like it but it just couldn't hold their interest.
I would much rather see my little one read Ursula LeGuin's 'Earthsea' trilogy; those are ripping yarns with complex characters, moral choices with realistic consequences, and written with genuine style and without any hint of Christian preachment. Much saner and more satisfying than recycled hohum Jayzez myths.
...or least favorite?.
just for fun of course.. i just posted on the top 10 movies to take on a desert island and it had me wonder.. anyways....as to my favorite:.
"there is no spoon.
"Gomez, last night you were unhinged. You were like some mad howling beast. You frightened me.
Do it again..."
i am going to let j. r. brown look this one up for himself,.
from day one of this issue being raised the watchtower has maintained there is no problem with child molesters being shielded within the community of jehovahs witnesses.
the questions that beg to be answered are: .
And dilettante JW apologists have the CRUST to come here and ask ex-JWs if we are monomaniacal! Geez if this sort of travesty DOESN'T focus and sharpen our resolve to turn the Tower's slimy foundation over and expose the vermin hiding behind it's walls,we would be less than human!
Each and every one of those sick cultists is guilty of abusing the victims all over again. And they have the smegging CRUST to talk about OUR lack of morals!
I keep thinking 'Mommie now you are unshockable, you've seen the worst that cult can dish out' and then POW! They manage to sock me in the solar plexus one more time, and I am again amazed that they can still shock me!
Always always it's the BABIES that eat the most shit in their cruel hippo hierarchy.
Defending a convicted perv...how low CAN they sink before they drown in their own sewage?
its been a while since i read stephen r. covey's _the 7 habits of highly effective people_ and i do not feel like looking up the section i am getting ready to mention.
but i think i recall covey talking about the unhealthy habit of becoming overly engrossed in one activity or pursuit.. it seems that there are individuals using this medium of communication whose life's aim is to "help" jws out of the "borg" or 'bring down the tower.
if it tricks your trigger, i guess there is nothing anyone can do to prevent you from "helping" jws out of the "borg.
"Creating one's own life purpose, devising one's personal system of mores and trying to guide one's own step might be a little problematic. I tried it before I became a Witness. And Duns does not want to return to his former way of life"
So because YOU are too venal to figure out what's ethical and what isn't without some salvation package's canned guidelines, everyone must have the same moral failing as you? Even a child can see the illogic of THAT conclusion...
You dubs ALWAYS end up whinging 'what replacement can you give me for my Watchtower conscience? What have you got to offer?'
GROW A SMEGGING SPINE GREG! Do what's RIGHT because it's the RIGHT thing to do! Your cult is KILLING PEOPLE, body AND heart! You don't have to 'return' to anything. You could move FORWARD to honesty and genuine integrity. Of corse you'll have to learn what those words mean before you do, and that will require some actual work. You're used to having preprogrammed 'moral' responses fed to you via Crooklyn's hypnotic q&a indoctrination sessions.
If you're so morally bankrupt that you can't live without some committee of rabbis telling you how many hairs you are permitted to grow on your 'nads, then by all means STAY with your cult. At least your fear of their vengeful God keeps you from indulging your baser natural tendencies. Some people really are better off in the cult straitjacket; perhaps you, who claim to have no innate moral compass, are one of those.
i was wondering, for those of you who have left the organization, how long did the transition take?
i mean, how long after you left did you feel up in the air, in turmoil, lost, unsettled?
long long before you felt comfortable with the decision and basically happy with your life?
This is a highly individual process. It depends on your personal circumstances. Some folks adjust relatively fast; others need much more time and effort to feel any sort of balance. The important thing is for you to take your time, gather as much information as you can comfortably absorb, and then permit yourself the necessary space in which to process it . Real truth has nothing to fear from rigorous examination; feel free to examine the facts at a comfortable pace for YOU. Some people feel such a sense of urgency and dread when they first glimpse the 'man behind the curtain' that they leap into the first replacement 'salvation package' offered. Knowledge is power; how much knowledge will you need to make an informed decision about your future? Unfortunately, no one but you can figure that out.
I was in turmoil, lost, unsettled, while I was IN the organization. I was always comfortable with my decision to leave, because I KNEW there was something irrevocably wrong about the Society, although I hadn't seen all the proof yet. (I must say though that seeing my suspicions and conclusions validated online did give me a sense of satisfied closure.)
I can't help you with the happiness question; that seems to me to be partly temperament, partly circumstance. If you are determined to live a happy balanced life, and you're willing to learn new ways to do that, you stand a good chance of making fast progress. If you have a lot of emotional baggage, don't expect deculting to make that burden any easier to tote. Those raised in it from early childhood often have the hardest time learning what true balance and happiness are. I found it was hard to separate the cult from the family dysfunction; the problems often overlap.
As has been said before, finding a support system and a social routine outside the JW congregation is very helpful. The more well-rounded your activities, the faster you will feel a part of your community. Isolation is depressing unless you genuinely choose a solitary existence.
Professional counseling can be useful in sorting out any tangles you may discover while sorting out your ethical issues. Sometimes a neutral sounding board is needed to help you step back and view a situation more objectively. Here, too, you should feel free to examine any therapist's offerings and choose what works for you.
If you're looking for a comfortable replacement 'salvation package' to plug into the empty socket left behind after you wrench the Tower out of your heart, I can't help you. Real life doesn't come with guarantees.
Not all of us who have left the Tower are happy or comfortable. We are, however, free to decide for ourselves how to pursue comfort and happiness. Personal responsibility is an awesome thing. Happiness finds me incidentally in this journey through life, and I embrace it when it visits. The rest of the time, I try to laugh at the absurdities as I bumble along the roads less travellled. It makes the inevitable slogging easier to bear.
arguments from natural theology are at times needed when christians defend the faith against atheological attacks.
yet, for the christian, such apologetic maneuvers are not required in and of themselves, for christians know that they are not in a relationship with a force or an abstract superlative entity devised by human adroitness.
no, christians heed the sensus divinitatis and the confirmatory evidence that god provides to those who love him.
God Six of COURSE he's going into teaching! Where else but elitist academia can an asshole get paid to blow hot air?
Of course he won't be teaching anything USEFUL or PERTINENT, but he will be pontificating in front of a captive audience, so he'll feel fulfilled even though he will probably never actually spark a single original thought in any student's head.
Wonder which persona he'll trot out in a classroom?
i usually play cds in my cd-rom as i'm posting.
i've been listening to "delirious" for the last hour or so.. just wondered if anyone else is listening to anything good.
You never know what a Dark might be listening to: Papa Dark is a Minister of Music (ordained 4/20/00 MOST SACRED date LOLOL) in the ULC and he takes his responsibilities seriously. This morning at 5 AM insomniac Mommie is listening to Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "Black Music For White People".
'Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby?'
Next I will probably try Brian Auger& Julie Driscoll. Or maybe the soundtrack to 'Oh Brother Where Art Thou' or some classic Floyd. It's all good...
growing up in the borg, with 5 meetings a week, personal study, field service, etc.
it is pounded into your head that you can only have an intimate relationship with jehovah as long as you are associated with his "spirit-directed organization.
" leave the organization then jehovah leaves you.
"And for the athiest posters, what was it that brought you to the realization that there is no higher power."
Facing the facts brought me to that realization. Realizing that prayer is exactly as useful as wishing led me there. Realizing how much time I had wasted petitioning and serving a deaf impotent Jehovah led me to bend common sense to what I had been taught. Reading the Bible without cult blinders helped me to see what a horrible primitive tribal authoritarian sexist hierarchical mess of prejudice that book contains.
It took ten years of research, reading, serious thought and meditation to reach the conclusion, but these days the best working hypothesis I have is that there is no SkyDaddy. Best of all, there is no need to be 'saved' from anything. There is just life, in all its good bad and indifferent everyday splendor.
dateline-"soon!anydaynow!justaroundthecorner!".
just read bendrr's post.. been out of the loop for awhile.. what's the deal with this so-called piece/expose on jw-pedophilia.
that nbc's "dateline" is supposed to be airing?.
Spanking? LOLOL
lash with ineffectual wet noodle from trollytroll doesn't come close!
It only takes a second to wipe your rantspittle off my boot and then it's as if you never said anything at all... LOLOLOLOL
